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G8MNY  > TECH     16.02.24 08:08z 88 Lines 3718 Bytes #-2052 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Inverter Petrol Generators
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By G8MNY                                      (Updated Jan 14)
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N.B. THESE ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SENSITIVE MF/HF HAM WORK!

At a recent summer camp we tested out a new 2.2kW generator...
         ______ 
   .==ú'(__)  ³   Modern electronic inverter type
  /           ³   generators (Honda/Clark) produce
 Þ [][] : ø ø ³   excellent stable power output, with
 ³            ³   good sine wave under heavy changing
 ³ø           ³   rectified mains loads. (e.g. 400W SSB Tx Valve PA)
 ÀÂÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÂÙ

Unlike conventional generators that run at a constant 3000 RPM, the inverter
type can tick over quietly at low revs & save energy (fuel) under light loads,
and rev up to well over 3000 RPM (e.g. 500-10000 RPM). The higher revs means a
lighter smaller CC engine is used. But it is still quite noisy at full load!

ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿  380V DC    ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
³HIGH VOLTAGEÃÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄ´L & N HF PULSEÃÄ´GENNY MAINSÃÄÄ>230V
³ ALTERNATOR ³   ³   C === ³  WIDTH SINE  ³ ³   FILTER  ³   50Hz
ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ  \³/     ³  ³ WAVE INVETER ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÙ SINEWAVE
              Engine       ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ      _³_
          Speed Feedback     10kHz-50MHz         ///

The engine throttle feedback is used to maintain the high voltage DC. A large C
ensures there is enough DC stored to meet the sudden demands until the engine
revs up.

HF NOISE
You don't get something for nothing. The genny mains filter used to clean up
the output is quite good for domestic/industrial use, but not LF/HF work! The
inverter produces LOTS of broadband noise with a slight buzzy hum content.

EXTRA MAINS FILTERING
The interference mode to the Rx was found to be "common mode" via the mains to
PSU and PA etc, and not radiated to the nearby balanced aerials. (to the limit
of band noise floor).

Tests were done at a quiet /P site with HF Rx Preamp ON, with various mains
filters showed on the S meter something like this..

Genny  None   Normal   -------------- Inverter Type Genny with ----------------
        On   4 stroke    No    Plug  Plug    Large   Both    Earth  Filter with
Band   Batt   Genny    Filter  Top   Top x2  Filter  Filters  Only  Earth Choke
 20m    S1      S1       S7     S4     S3      S3      S2      S6       S2
 40m    S2      S2       S9     S5     S4      S5      S4      S8       S3 
 80m    S3      S3       S9+    S5     S4      S6      S4      S9       S4
       GOLD
     STANDARD

The "Normal 4 Stroke Genny" had fully suppressed ignition. The "Plug Top" 
filter was old BT type, and the "Large Filter" was a huge "brick" sized
standard motor type. As they performed slightly differently, they were also
tested together "Both" for a slight improvement over either one.

The tests with "just the earth wire" connected, proved there was quite a bit of
conducted RFI on it and a mains filter with an earth choke would help. One was
found, wired up and tested.

          LÄÄÄÄ(((()ÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄ> L 
 INVERTER      = = =     === ³         LOAD
  GENNY   NÄÄÄÄ())))ÄÄÄÄÂÄÁÄÄ(ÄÄÄÄÄ> N
                       ===  ===
      ÄÂÄ EÄÄÄÄÄÄ(((()ÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄ> E   Â
      _³_       F I L T E R             _³_
      /// Genny                         /// RF Earth
    Safety Earth


CONCLUSION
The choke in earth filter, did work the best of all the filters tested, but the
QRM is still well above the GOLD STANDARD of no added noise! An end fed wire
for 160m was also a lot worse!


See also buls on "Mains Plugtop Filter Adapter", "Cheaper Generators",
"Regulating 12V Generator Output" & "Madusa SIP 2300 Generator Repair" 


Why Don't U send an interesting bul?

73 de John G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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